TEI Council Meeting

<date when="2007-09-25">25 September 2007</date>Dan O’Donell

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Syd Baumanminor tweaks to some encoding and temporal values; re-wrote section on my NH task; added DOCTYPE decl

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The TEI Council teleconference meeting took place on Tuesday 25 September at 12:00 UTC.

Arianna Ciula (AC), Syd Bauman (SB), Tone Merete Bruvik (TMB), Lou Burnard (LB), Matthew Driscoll (MD), Dan O’Donnell (Minutes; DO), Dot Porter (arrived 12:45; DP), Sebastian Rahtz (SR), Laurent Romary (LR), John Walsh (JW), and Christian Wittern (Chair;CW).

Council members unable to participate: James Cummings (JC), David Birnbaum (DB), and Conal Tuohy (CT).

Open action items

CW reviewed the action items from the previous minutes.

  • LB reports that all work has been done except some affiliations; suggestion was made that we might want to include new affiliations for those who have changed institutions since their work for us; LB will contact relevant people either directly or via tei-l for checking names and affilitations. contact workgroup participants and others who have helped on P5 to check spelling of names and current affiliations. 2007-09-30

  • Done. to provide additional e.g.s and read through existing ones in rendition 2007-09-30read through the proposed list of rendition attribute values and provide feedback to LB 2007-09-30

  • Done. Consensus implemented by LB. This item is closed except for bugs and errors.

  • Revision of this chapter is almost complete; SB reports that most all has been completed except replacement of one example, and the provision of English examples throughout as hoped for by Council last meeting. However, SB had thought that because deadline had passed, we were simply foregoing the English examples. Council thought otherwise, and expressed a desire to have the English running example in place even now. to finish revisions of NH by end of month 2007-09-30 review NH, which has yet to be read in its new form by anybody other than the authors 2007-09-30

  • LB reports that there are no changes to report; still possible that there may be last minute changes from their side; LB and LR are pushing to get action from the responsible person at the ISO.

  • DO reports that this was done, but received such luke warm to cold reception from the editors that he decided there was more to lose by introducing these kind of changes this late in the process. As a result abandoned it temporarily. Punted down field for P5.1

  • No Longer Applicable

  • No Longer Applicable

  • In absence of JC and DP at this point of the call, Council discussed the nexts steps more generally. Decided to call the web design closed except for bugs and errors to comment from TC members on 9-28, while encouraging TC members not to raise major changes before that time. Acceptance or rejections of suggestions delegated to JC and DP. With reassignment of SB back to editorial duties, he will be leaving the site in the hands of JP and DP (with support from SR as needed). JC and DP are to begin liasing with Chris Ruotolo to ensure the integration of the new tei-c.org site and the P5 site. DO is to facilitate this integration process. The TC felt that the webmast from the main board site should have over all leadership responsibility. Report any last minute major suggestions for changes to web design (if you absolutely must) to JC and DP2007-09-28 Begin integration process with main site with Chris Ruotolo (ongoing) Facilitate communication between the two web teams2007-09-25

  • Done.

  • Done

  • Done

  • Done

  • DO reported that given the objection to the choice/subst/del/add, he saw no point in pursuing this more complex proposal for P 5.0. CW asked if DO would be willing to prepare a customisation that others could use with P5.0 andadd this to the list of things that should go in P 5.1 DO said he would.

  • No longer applicable

  • No longer applicable

  • Done

  • Skipped until later in the meeting.

  • No comment was made on this.

  • On going as the chapters are reviewed and copy-edited.

  • The point of this item was initially lost on Council. Later, after AC discovered additional information, LB said he would devote some attention to it Expand explanatory prose in USE concerning which elements are mandatory and how a user can know this as Arianna described it in her email today. 2007-09-30

  • Done. Awaiting final comment from SB. read and comment if nec. on solution to mode attribute on classes. 2007-10-10

  • Not done. To be done as part of chapter reviewes and editing.

  • Done. Very successfully.

Chapter Triage

CW asked Council members to report on outstanding chapter reviews:

Who # Title Comments
AC MS Manuscript Description Done except for question about hand/handDesc deal with hand/handDesc issue in MS 2007-09-30
CW WD Representation of non-standard characters and glyphs Done.
CT PH Transcription of Primary Sources CW to contact CT and discover status contact CT and discover status of PH
DB ND Names, Dates, People, and Places Not present; CW to contact and discover status contact DB and discover status of ND
DB FT Tables, Formulae, and Graphics Done
DP CO Elements Available in All TEI Documents Ongoing. To be finished by 09-30 finish review of CO 2007-09-30
JC DS Default Text Structure Allegedly spotted in hall with copy of chapter in hand; witness was uncertain if this was a ruse or evidence of ongoing or completed effort. CW to find out. contact JC and discover status of DS
JW SA Linking, Segmentation, and Alignment On going; to be completed by 09-30 complete review of SA 2007-09-30
JW AI Simple Analytic Mechanisms On going; to be completed by 09-30 complete review of AI 2007-09-30
LR FS Feature Structures Done
LR FD Feature System Declaration Review ongoing ; to be completed by 09-30 complete review of FD 2007-09-30
LR TD Documentation Elements Done.
MD GD Graphs, Networks, and Trees Done
MD CC Language Corpora Done
SR NH Using the TEI (NH) Awaiting revised version
SR DI Dictionaries Review ongoing; to be completed by 09-30 complete review of DI 2007-09-30
TMB ND Names Dates, etc. Done

Additional Items for Discussion

There were two additional items for discussion on the agenda:

  • Bibliography
  • Formatting of the Guidelines: decision process for confliction proposals (e.g. formatting “bug” in empty elements like specDesc)

The second of these topics was discussed during our review of the relevant action item; only the bibliography question was discussed in detail here.

Bibliography

A vigorous discussion of where we stood and what was involved took place. Minutes became hard to keep and it was agreed DO would post a summary for review. All action items are currently dated to 10-15 pro forma; but some need to be completed before others.

In short: the Gudieline’s “bibliography” will contain three parts:

    Suggested Reading

    Works Cited

    Sources of Examples used in the Guidelines

The section is derived from the 180 or so items in an unstructured bibliography supplied by Kevin Hawkins and Susan Schreibman. DP agreed to take this list, compare it to the 50 or so items in our current Works cited and remove duplicates from the reading list. LR will then convert the Reading List to biblStruct in the same way he and his magic workshop have just finished the Works Cited List. Meanwhile, AC is also collecting sources for examples for use in our “Sources” list. The actual implementation of this part of the bibliography (i.e. the linking of documentation to examples) will be effected by SR. Meanwhile again SR and LB will be converting bibl in the text of the guidelines to ref pointing at the works cited list.

All the above action produced the following action list: Compare Reading List and Works Cited and remove duplicates from the Reading List.2007-10-15 Convert Reading List to StructBibl 2007-10-15 Finish extracting sources for list of sources for examples 2007-10-15 Connect sources of examples bibliography to examples in text 2007-10-15 Convert bibl in the text of the guidelines to ref pointing at the works cited list 2007-10-15

Next Meeting

The next teleconference was not scheduled. CW will put up a meetomatic survey to determine the best date. It will, however be at 12:00 noon UTC. This will be: 06:00 MDT in Calgary, 07:00 CDT in Chicago, 08:00 EDT in New York, 13:00 BST in London, 14:00 CEST in Paris, 21:00 JST in Kyoto, and 00:00 NZST in Wellington. CW to set date for next meeting using meetomatic, and announce. 2007-09-30