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The TEI Council teleconference meeting took place on Friday 17 July at 12:00 UTC.
Participants: Syd Bauman (SB), David Birnbaum (DB), Lou Burnard (LB), Arianna Ciula (AC), James Cummings (Minutes;JC), Matthew Driscoll (MD), Dan O’Donnel (DO), Dot Porter (DP), Laurent Romary (LR), Conal Tuohy (CT), John Walsh (JW), and Christian Wittern (Chair;CW).
Council members unable to participate: Tone Merete Bruvik (TMB), Sebastian Rahtz (SR)
CW reviewed the action items from the previous minutes.
- LB confirmed this had been completed.
- LB confirmed this had been completed.
- DO confirmed this had been completed.
- Eds now ready to do this.
Implement Board decision with regard to title page. 2007-07-20 - CW hadn’t done this yet but it would be done for its due
date.
Draft list of workgroups and their members for editors. 2007-08-01 - LB confirmed this had been completed.
- SB confirmed this had been completed.
- Both Eds confirmed this had been completed.
- DB confirmed this had been completed. LB confirmed it had been included into the Guidelines
- LB confirmed this had been completed.
- LB confirmed this had been completed.
- SB confirmed this had been done.
- SB confirmed this had been done.
- SB confirmed this had been done.
- SB had not yet done this.
move postscript to a free standing ODD. Discussion ensued about whether the content model of <div> needed revision. LB believed any such work should at most be reconsidered for P5 1.0, SB felt will post a reminder concerning the current <div> problems to council list.2007-08-01 Post reminder of the current <div> problems to council list. 2007-07-20 - SB confirmed this had been completed.
- Discussion of this was postponed for later in the agenda.
- JW confirmed that he is on target to meet the due date
for this action.
Rewrite rendition recommendations and evaluate whether possible for P5 1.0 2007-08-01 - LB confirmed that he is on target to meet the due date for this
action.
Prepare the ground for changes to rendition/@rend/@rendRef in P5 1.1 if JW’s recommendations are unable to be included in P5 1.0 2007-08-01 - Some discussion of this took place and will be continued
on the council list, with a final draft being hammered out by
LB, CT, and DP.
Discuss work on facsimile markup on council list. 2007-07-24 Hammer out final P5 1.0 draft of facsimile markup. 2007-08-01 - SB had not yet done this. LB argued that this may not be
necessary at all. It was suggested that one possibility is a
change from <teiCorpus> to <teiGroup>. It was
decided that this should be discussed on the council list once
more. If a concrete proposal has not been received by
2007-07-20, then it will have to wait until P5 1.1.
Make concrete proposal with regard to merging of Corpus chapter into DS or teiCorpus/teiGroup. 2007-07-20 - LB noted that no concrete recommendations had been
made.
Implement any council-approved recommendations concerning the merging of Corpus into DS. 2007-08-01 - LB confirmed that this had been completed. He also mentioned that lots of the schema-specific discussion had been moved to the IM chapter.
- TMB was not present which hampered discussion. SB
discussed the moving of prev/next/part attributes from SA and
CO to NH. Most of council appeared to disagree with the moving
of these attributes. LB commented that the chapter as a
minimum needs a rewrite to highlight TEI ways of dealing with
overlap. Moving of attributes was shelved for P5 1.1.
Review prose of NH and discuss on council list from 1 August, providing rewritten chapter by mid August. 2007-08-15 - LR summarised all the work done and LB confirmed that he
had also seen it. Discussion continued concerning the 3 views
section at the end of the chapter. It was unclear whether to
keep unchanged, revise, or discard this entirely for P5 1.1
Provide any further changes to Dictionary chapter in light of discussion and submit to Eds. 2007-08-1 - The Eds noted this was pending the above item.
Editors to integrate final Dictionary revisions into Guidelines. 2007-08-15 - LB confirmed that he had indeed done this, but that
reaction from the community was somewhat
underwhelming.
To continue to encourage community feedback until 2007-07-27 Revise person/places draft with regard to TEI Community comment, announce final draft version on mailing list. 2007-08-01 - LB reported that although not due yet, he had started
this. He warned that it might be difficult to keep the
recommendations of TEI and ISO in sync given the date of ISO
meetings.
Report back to council on any changes to FSD/FS and if necessary rationalise the TEI version. 2007-08-15 - LB confirmed this had not yet been done.
Revise add/del/supplied issues (e.g.trac 301, 331) 2007-08-01
Layout of the Guidelines (JC/DP) JC reported briefly
on the status of the work on the layout of the Guidelines. He and DP
had solicited contributions of formatting suggestions and created a
wiki page listing some initial suggestions. SR had solved a number of
the problems which were bugs or highly structural such as the toggling
of RNG/RNC schemas. JC had posted a message to the council list
summarising the work and timetable.
discussion of appInfo As SR was not present, JC
reported that the <appInfo> proposal seemed to answer all the
concerns expressed in the discussion on TEI-L. Although it is more
fixed than the original discussions agreed from Berlin, Council agreed
to support it.
Content model of <rdg> DO argued that things
larger than phrases are used for textual variants. LB believes that
there are already available solutions for situations where variants
are not easily nestable or not phrase-level. DO suggests that
<app> should be a member of listLike. LB does not
disagree.
said proposal SB summarised the proposal, and most
of Council agreed. SB was worried about the name of the proposed aloud
attribute. Other suggestions were made, notably “explicit”. SB to
finalised it and add it to the Guidelines, consulting council by
mailing list.
Stemma Model DB reported on the proposal for ways of
modelling textual stemmata, both within the existing TEI framework,
and possible better ways to do it. Council should review this material
and make any comments on the list by Friday.
The next teleconference was scheduled for Thursday 2 August 2007,
12pm noon UTC. This will be:
06:00 MDT in Calgary,
07:00
CDT in Chicago,
08:00 EDT in New York,
13:00 BST in
London,
14:00 CEST in Paris,
21:00 JST in Kyoto, and
Wed 18 July, 00:00 NZST in Wellington.
This is shortly after the
major 2007-08-01 deadline for most technical revisions to be
complete. Council members should ensure that they have posted reports
concerning all action items pertaining to them by this date.
Failing a better solution, we will revert to using Indiana’s teleconferencing system, since much of today’s meeting was inaudible to nmany participants, for the second time.